Episode 064

All this happened in the span of seven days: Microsoft bought Nokia (the handset business, not the whole company). Samsung announced the Galaxy Note 3 and the Galaxy Gear. Sony announced a pair of soup can cameras and yet another phone with a “meh” display. Google was diagnosed with diabetes. And James saw a rainbow.

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[Episode 064, 37 minutes, 54 seconds, 34.7 MB]

Episode 064

15 thoughts on “Episode 064

  1. James, what if a smartwatch gave you more battery life, not less?

    You’d be pulling your phone out less, turning that power hungry screen on less, which also means the CPU doesn’t go into a high power state as often….and BT is relatively low power in comparison.

    Maybe if I get bored today I’ll work out how much “screen on” time a smartwatch has to save you to “pay” for it’s Bluetooth connection…

      1. Ok, so lets use a galaxy S4 as the phone, as I can get power consumption numbers here: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

        So lets say average screen power consumption of 0.7w (seems similar to other devices).

        How much power does a bluetooth connection take? Well lets say worst case a Pebble (for example) uses all its power for the BT connection (which it clearly doesn’t, it has a CPU, screen etc). It apparently lasts 7 days on a 3.7v 130mAh battery – that’s 0.481Wh spread over 7 days, so we use 0.07Wh every day.

        So when the screen’s on for an hour it’d use 0.7Wh, but the power drain is only a tenth of that per day.

        So if the above’s correct (i’m in a telecon, idly calculating so please correct me):

        If your smartwatch saves you more 6 minutes* of phone screen use a day, it’s making your battery last longer.

        *disclaimer: rough numbers, many assumptions. If someone wants to send me a Pebble (or Qualcomm Toq 😉 I can try and do better.

  2. Wow, so many comments.

    1. Nokia – the more I’ve thought about it, the more it makes sense for Nokia, and sucks for Microsoft. Nokia has a long history of completely pivoting the company. They’ve gone from paper to car tires to rubber boots to tvs to smartphones. It was time for them to move on. They’ve kept the most future-resistant parts of their business, including their name and their patents, and sold the rest. Brilliant.

    2. Kit Kat/Nestle – I see your point, James, but those examples are from ~40 years ago. At what point does a brand get to move past its transgressions? Has Nestle/Hershey/Kit Kat had any major PR blunders in the past 5 years? 10? Don’t get me wrong – I agree that the partnership unnecessarily opens both companies up to potential risk, but I don’t think it’s fair to assume they’ll get heat off the bat for this.

    1. 1. 50% agree. I think this will be a good thing for Nokia, in the long run. Patents, etc. And yes, evolution – that too. But it remains to be seen how Microsoft handle this… The slide that Stefan mentions in the show, about how much money MS get when Nokia sell a WP, that should tell you that it’s automatically a good deal.

      If they can keep the talent, then they’ll prosper. But it’s that first part that’s going to prove difficult.

      2. I agree, they *are* old examples. However many people haven’t forgotten and, as someone who wasn’t even alive when it all happened, I can see that they might not be relevant anymore. However, others may not – that’s my point.

  3. My LinkedIn/Twitter comment says all I really need to say:

    “Nokia & Microsoft are being forced to change; will you be like Nokia and evolve to the next trends, or MS and evolve to address the current?”

    Nokia is posturing to be like an IBM. Could be a really good move for them. MS wants to be more like Apple; not my preference, but I see why they’d want to do that in light of their attention to shareholders moreso than product/product quality. I do think this move speaks just as much to tech markets as it does their fans. Shame that media/analysts/journalists are paying more attention to reacting to the present rather than creating the future. Short term, I hope MS is ready to push all their WP items 3-6 months faster; they won’t like this deal if they don’t.

    I dig what Sony is doing with the removable lenses. Its different enough. Makes sense for those photographers who don’t care for phones that act like cameras. Everyone else could care less; their other offerings are blah, like everything else Android (5in, slab, and skinned). Blah.

    Samsung’s Galaxy Gear was rushed. Makes sense don’t get me wrong, but they rushed it. They’d done better having a smaller app library, and just raping the Motoactv. Mind you, I have a Motoactv (with a burn in on the screen), and its fairly decent and I push mine. It needs a better battery and wireless charging, not more apps, not limited connectivity.

    My question: Samsung is the largest mobile company w/o their own OS heading a current product. Will they push Tizen all the more now? Or, will they try to become a services/tech company that builds on top of platforms for their own “theme?”

  4. Given Nokia’s current position this was probably inevitable/a wise move, however there has been very little thought/coverage in the press about Elop’s original decision to go WP in the first place. It seemingly was a catastrophic one for Nokia, leading them to be bought out.

    The likelyhood that Nokia would have become kings of the jungle again had they chosen Android has seemingly been overlooked. Now if Elop’s decision was in earnest – I fear for Microsoft with him at the helm. (of course if he was an MS trojan then all credit to him).

    1. You make a good point, but the ifs and buts around Nokia’s decision to not choose Android are all fairly inconsequential. We, like Nokia, should start looking to the future to see where the road takes them next.

  5. The Nokian says:

    Unfortunately all the Nokia bashing from the pro Google/Apple loverboy crowd and their fetish for iToys has contributed to Nokia’s demise. Jolla is the only viable solution at the moment and I am hoping that the authors of this podcast will give it proper coverage. So far it has all been lust for Google/Apple which tends to be boring.

    1. Stefan Constantinescu says:

      “Jolla is the only viable solution at the moment.”

      Can you please send me some of the drugs you’re currently taking?

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